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A sampling of 290 of over 50,000 VeggieConnection.com members world-wide!
seafly
Vegetarian Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 75 |
| Height: | 5'8" (173 cm) |
| Build: | Average |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegetarian |
| Occupation: | Other |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Norwich, England United Kingdom |
Scary picture eh? Despite this appearance, I am not Rasputin and I have been known to smile (often). Someone pointed out that a picture is important and this is the only recent one that fitted the sites criteria. I do have a beard at the moment but it will probably come off in the winter.
I get up very early to meditate each day. I drink quite a lot of wine too so I'm full of contradictions like most people. I'm generally happy and easygoing, maybe a little lazy. I like women but of course I'm often completely baffled by humans in general. I love sailing and growing vegetables, hillwalking and cycling-did I mention sailing-that has been my lifelong and consuming interest.
VegetableMan
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 49 |
| Height: | 5'11" (180 cm) |
| Build: | Athletic/Muscular |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Self Employed |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Kefar Sava, Hamerkaz Israel Willing to relocate |
I am an adventurous, easy going guy who loves travels, nature, photography and experiencing new places and cultures...I'm a nature lover and an explorer by heart..(Recently I got back from a full year of traveling around Australia and New Zealand). I like sports (doing, not watching(-:) and love anything that pumps adrenalin into your blood, like skydiving, motorcycling, rock climbing and extreme sports in general... I love the ocean and related activities like scuba diving and surfing. I love the winter and the rain, and try to avoid the sun as best I can (I get burnt very easily)...if I survived the Australian desert I'll survive anything...
music is my life I love anything that's good, from metal to classical music, while skipping Britney Spears and her likes.. I'm also trained in Classical Piano, I managed to play on the occasional Piano while traveling, now I'm back to practicing on a daily basis.
When I wanna engage in less "dangerous" activities I like to relax at home and watch a good movie, preferably under blankets with my loved one :)
Few things turn me on more than feeling the curves of the road as I head into the mountains for a weekend getaway with someone special..
As for my work and business life, in short:
I'm an engineer by profession, and an entrepreneur, running several businesses (in the vegan, health and fitness fields).
(After re-reading this it seems there are too many I's here, but then again, this IS the "more about me" section..)
The next section is all about you...
TheDarkHippy
Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 48 |
| Height: | 5'5" (165 cm) |
| Build: | Slim/Slender |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Other |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Southend-on-Sea, England United Kingdom |
Peace loving hippy. Love the outside / nature. Bit of a health freak. Loyal to the core. Supper chil. Life's to short for drama. Anything else just ask.
Earthlight
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 70 |
| Height: | 5'10" (178 cm) |
| Build: | A few extra pounds |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Artist / Musician / Writer |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Pacifica, California United States |
I am looking for an intelligent, sensitive woman who laughs easily, still believes in love and romance, loves and respects the lives of animals, and finds great refuge in the natural world. I am a fully vaccinated artist and lover of the outdoors, I make art, write, play music, work for my beliefs, care deeply about making a difference while I'm here. I am quiet and gregarious, verbal and enjoy silence. Being in love on a star-filled night sounds wonderful to me.
I am a warm, friendly, outgoing man, articulate, self-confident but humbly aware of all I can yet grow to be. I know that even with the deeply fulfilling life I've already had, the experiences and journey of what's yet to come can be amazing. I'm want a meaningful relationship to build a sense of home and family together, deeply integrated into the lives we have already built. I believe myself to be a very ethical and caring person, a great friend to those I love and respectful to those I encounter. I am a sensitive and strong man, who loves to work with my mind, my soul and my hands. I love laughter and song, and am passionate about moving around the natural world exploring its beauty.
I am an artist who values beauty more than riches, passion more than just going along and I am determined to make a positive difference while I'm here. I've been politically involved since I was 12, simply because I cared and probably because I still believe in what America can be. I love to be outdoors, hike, camp, travel & come to know the world. I've been a vegetarian since age 13 (vegan now) as it seems morally wrong to kill animals. I admire Gandhi, Camus and have been moved by John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell and Neil Young. I love folk, rock & roll, jazz and blues, Chopin, Vaughn-Williams, Satie, Taj Mahal, Jimmy Reed, Terry Allen, Tom Russell, Linda Ronstadt, Billie Holliday, Robert Johnson, Keith Jarrett. I play guitar & piano without great skill but play and write with great passion.
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I love making a home, tuning it to be a place refuge and joy. I deeply enjoy cooking together and sharing
Reading The Overstory. I hope for romance, but also friendships.
HealthyVegan
Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 40 |
| Height: | 5'5" (165 cm) |
| Build: | Slim/Slender |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Self Employed |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| San Clemente, California United States |
I am self-employed, work online. I like spending time in nature, hiking, riding bicycle. I have been vegan 13 years.
Vegimatic
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 78 |
| Height: | 5'11" (180 cm) |
| Build: | Slim/Slender |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Self Employed |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Sowerby Bridge United Kingdom Willing to relocate |
I enjoy music, photography, countryside, walking, art, antiques, cats, canal boating.
Favourite music: a wide range from classical to rock and jazz. I often enjoy music that challenges me a little and I don't get on very well with bland pop and middle-of-the-road.
Favourite places: Anywhere where there's water. The Kerry coast, Cornish cliffs, the Grand Canal in Venice, Lake Tahoe.
I prefer a peaceful country life but don't mind the excitement of a vibrant city from time to time (favourite cities Venice, San Francisco, Cologne).
I've had a number of careers including civil servant, photographer, journalist and for the last 35 years software developer. I'm now largely retired and spend my time creating music, making films, taking photographs and renovating my house (see below). I'm heavily involved in local arts projects.
I moved to Yorkshire a few years ago with a plan to complete one last house renovation job before I get too old for it. I've been so wrapped up in the wonderfully rich and varied artistic life in the area that I only started at the beginning of 2020.
BirdmanofAllthatjazz
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 72 |
| Height: | 6'1" (185 cm) |
| Build: | Average |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Medical / Dental / Health |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Severna Park, Maryland United States |
I'm a typical liberal arts person and an atheist. As to the atheist part, I think there's something much smarter than us in the universe, but it's been awfully quiet. I like eating at vegan restaurants, there are several within a few minutes of me. Often I'm quiet, sometimes not, it depends on the situation. I like to be witty and can get in a Monty Python mode if someone is receptive to it. I'll talk about anything but run from someone who wants to argue. I'm creative and always need some kind of project, usually it's writing or music. Most people like music, but I am a bit of a nut about blues, rock, and jazz. I've written some clever songs, IMHO. I'm flexible and will usually do anything others want to do, but I'm not big on travel, especially long trips. I've always been aware that my life is finite and I should live it fully, yet it has been simpler things like spending time with animals and nature that have met that need the most. I like people but am more comfortable in one-on-one conversations than in groups.
crg463
Raw Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 48 |
| Height: | 5'4" (163 cm) |
| Build: | Slim/Slender |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Raw Vegan |
| Occupation: | Teacher / Professor |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Springfield, Missouri United States Willing to relocate |
About Me: I am 43 years old, an INTJ (read about my personality type), #1& #5 on enneagram. I believe in lifelong learning and am continually working to improve myself and presenting myself with new goals & challenges. I'm big into health with my food choices - I mainly eat only fruit and veggies. I am a trail runner and enjoy physical activity. I love gardening and want to learn and apply more to the plans of living as sustainably as possible - veggie gardens, fruit & nut trees, bees, etc. I do not have children. I am an Art department chair and have been employed as a highschool teacher for 17 years. I am a thinker, spiritual, modest, responsible, disciplined, grounded, and level headed. I am very future and goal oriented, independent, and self-sufficient. I am very interested in Ancient Near Eastern Cosmology, Creation Theology, and Temple Theology and how they come together in soteriology. I am earning my Masters degree in Religious Studies and am open minded religiously but have strong moral convictions. I am not into 'sports,' but I can throw a football and have played ultimate a few times. I currently enjoy trail running, hiking, kayaking, camping, lots of mountains, rivers, lakes, big trees, big views, exploring and adventure. I also enjoy art and museums and traveling. I do not live to acquire material possessions but to live a simple life and acquire wisdom, knowledge and understanding. I will be able to move in the next year and have a 5 year plan to purchase and live on a few acres, near mountains where I can garden, have a few animals and live off of the land as much as possible. I like learning survival skills and techniques. I try to keep fit. I'm not afraid of physical labor or getting dirty.
SpiritualVegan
Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 47 |
| Height: | 6'0" (183 cm) |
| Build: | Slim/Slender |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Administrative / Secretarial |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Phoenix, Arizona United States Willing to relocate |
I enjoy living life and finding my purpose in this human world. I like to have a good time be it hiking or going out dancing...just because I am vegan doesn't mean I can't have fun! I enjoy good friends, true real people and quality conversation.
Ichoosejoy
Raw Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 61 |
| Height: | 5'9" (175 cm) |
| Build: | Slim/Slender |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Raw Vegan |
| Occupation: | Retired |
| Relationship: | Separated |
| Location |
| Sedona, Arizona United States |
Separated and moved from California to Sedona 5 months ago. I had a spiritual awakening in 2021 and he no longer understands me. We are on completely different paths
Veggieberry
Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 69 |
| Height: | 5'5" (165 cm) |
| Build: | A few extra pounds |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Finance / Accounting |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Leander, Texas United States Willing to relocate |
I am learning to make this lifestyle change. Which agrees with my love for animals.
gunnelk
Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 70 |
| Height: | 5'6" (168 cm) |
| Build: | Average |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Teacher / Professor |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Gothenburg Sweden |
I have been vegetarian all my life, vegan the last 43 years. I do not expect someone perfect, but I do prefer vegetarians to omnivore. My interests are literature, movies, gardening and my children and grandchildren!
Ranj36
Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 36 |
| Height: | 5'2" (157 cm) |
| Build: | Average |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Self Employed |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Bengaluru, Karnataka India Willing to relocate |
Hey! I'm so excited to be here... it's taken me quite a while to feel "ready for the marriage mart" (said in my best Claudia Jessie voice).
I'm from Bangalore, India, but consider myself to be a citizen of the world. I hold a bachelor's degree in Physics, Chemistry, and Mathematics and an MBA degree. As much as I love science (and I do), I am also heavily into esoteric stuff such as Tarot, Human Design, etc. It's taken me a long time to embrace both aspects of me.
I've been running my own businesses for a decade now, and gotta say, I don't miss a single thing about a 9-to-5 job.
I love, love, love deep chats. I love solitude too. I consider myself to be quite self-aware and emotionally intelligent (but the right relationships always push one's edges, hey?).
Oh, and I love books! Both fiction and non-fiction. I'm currently deep into Brandon Sanderson's writing. His world-building is next level.
I love to travel, read a lot, and write a lot. I generally think life is wonderful. 😊
Silverleaf
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 43 |
| Height: | 6'0" (183 cm) |
| Build: | Slim/Slender |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Self Employed |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Greater London, England United Kingdom Willing to relocate |
I'm a digital nomad (for lack of a better term) with a transient, minimalist lifestyle. I'm not opposed to settling down somewhere for the right person if visa runs are viable; I did this in Taiwan for years.
I've been self-employed since the age of 20 and have lived abroad since 2016. Originally from the USA, though I have no intention to live there again. To stay active, I particularly enjoy cycling and exploring on foot, as well as occasional hiking. At home I'm content with films/series, reading, and gaming. When I'm in a new city, I always like to check out the museums/galleries, parks, and botanic garden (if there is one), usually with camera in hand. I used to sell photos for a living, and photography remains a leisure hobby.
I enjoy my independence, although I must admit, ever since I was young I daydreamed of traveling with a partner. That remains my desire, but it seems most people's conception of "travel" is what they see on social media.
Kale
Raw Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 66 |
| Height: | 5'11" (180 cm) |
| Build: | Athletic/Muscular |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Raw Vegan |
| Occupation: | Self Employed |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Huber Heights, Ohio United States |
Practical, creative, open-minded, and optimistic. I’m a business owner who works hard, stays goal-oriented, and believes kindness and a good sense of humor matter. I travel often, exercise daily, love animals, enjoy gardening, and especially love long walks with my dog.
Greggor
Vegetarian Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 72 |
| Height: | 5'9" (175 cm) |
| Build: | A few extra pounds |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegetarian |
| Occupation: | Technical / IT / Engineering |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Polk City, Iowa United States Willing to relocate |
I think of myself as mature, thoughtful, caring, creative, tolerant, intellectual, independent, sometimes clever, and often eclectic in my interests and attitudes. I enjoy problem solving, nature, outdoor activities, pets, movies, computers, writing, oenology, a good drink, social interaction, small parties, and quiet nights by the fire. My outdoor activities include golfing, lawn care and gardening, camping, canoeing, and back packing although aging has caused me to limit these activities somewhat and seek more comfortable means of enjoying them. I am in the process of adopting a dog. I have three cats, one indoor cat becoming elderly like me, and two barn cats that moved in over the winter months. All of the cats that I have owned have been strays. I have been married twice (16 years and 15 years), but evidently not to the right woman. I hope eventually to try again and maybe next time it will work out better. I am enjoying my independence and living well. My religious beliefs are a bit unusual. I am a Natural Christian. This affects my whole viewpoint for the better. I have a naturalchristian.org website for anyone interested. My previous full time structural engineering job of almost five years finally came to an end in September of 2017, but I found an even better one and will continue until either they or I move on to something else. I am writing some whenever i am not overwhelmed by work. I hope to be able to publish my books sometime soon. I enjoy writing and I am currently writing something that I would classify fantasy/science fiction. I have many interests and think that I will always be working at something and I am sure that I will retire to my own interests.
trueblue944
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 71 |
| Height: | 5'8" (173 cm) |
| Build: | Athletic/Muscular |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Medical / Dental / Health |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Fort Smith, Arkansas United States Willing to relocate |
All natural Christian gentleman, who is kind, compassionate, warm, loving and affectionate. I’m strong, persistent, driven when I have to be; yet calm, gentle, happy, cheerful, fun loving, loyal and responsible. Like to cuddle, give and receive a massage.
Like being out in nature, walking on the beach, swimming, hiking, canoeing, biking, camping, adventure. Traveling to explore the great outdoors, seeing the beauty of nature, visiting family, friends and points of interest.
Living a healthful life style is a way of life for me: I’m a vegan; I lift weights, run, exercise, bicycle and stretch to keep in shape. I do not smoke, drink or do drugs or medications. I try to follow the natural laws of health and becoming one with God and nature.
I’m for natural healing, herbs, massage and hydrotherapy. I’m always reading, taking classes, for life is a continuing education and growing process to become the best we can be.
I’m a creative, independent thinker. My hobby is to design and build things.
My Motto: "Make the world a better place by passing through it."
waltzman
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 70 |
| Height: | 5'9" (175 cm) |
| Build: | Athletic/Muscular |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Other |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Grand Rapids, Michigan United States Willing to relocate |
Attempting to live a balanced life has led me into many paradigms in realms from fine art, science, spirituality and philosophy to alternative health, pedagogy (Waldorf), anthropology-shamanism, psychology, appropriate technology, biodynamic gardening, -- (dance, sculpture, drawing, education, healing via sound, yoga, meditation, trumpet, etc.) I feel that that and my Gemini intellectual curiosity has led me to become a kind of cosmic renaissance generalist. I love exploring the leading edge of old and new paradigms (New Dimensions Radio, Institute of Noetic Sciences, TheMonroeIns titute, Machaelle Wright's PerelandraNa tureIntelli gences work, books like Goswami's "The SelfAw areUniverse", Yurts, ArtSci Guyathotm Ail,TeePees, AlternativeRa dio, Coast To Coast AM, Anthroposophy, Drunvalo's Flower of Life, BBC's Radio-4 philosophers, AmyGoodman's DemocracyNow!, self help bks like Gray's Mars-Venus on Relationships, and Why You Aren't Mar ried...Yet, by Tracy McMillan, and Dr.Joel Fuhrman on Vegan eating, etc.)
So veggieness kept me from drifting into the tribal sleep so much while as artist/ educators, we moved through varying strata of society, but prefer a more balanced, do-it-yourself lifestyle with a peaceful, beautiful home-base with country-nature privacy (a la English garden homestead).
Paul81
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 45 |
| Height: | 5'8" (173 cm) |
| Build: | Average |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Technical / IT / Engineering |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Honolulu, Hawaii United States Willing to relocate |
Vegan for 16 years and artistic creative
lonelyheart
Vegetarian Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 64 |
| Height: | 5'11" (180 cm) |
| Build: | Average |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegetarian |
| Occupation: | Self Employed |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Leicester, England United Kingdom Willing to relocate |
I’ve reached a stage in life where I truly value the beauty of a slow morning and a long walk. Whether it’s exploring a new city or just wandering a local trail, I’m at my happiest when I’m discovering the world with someone special. I’m a big believer in kindness, deep conversations, and being a supportive partner
Jessica
Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 62 |
| Height: | 5'5" (165 cm) |
| Build: | A few extra pounds |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Medical / Dental / Health |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Rancho Cucamonga, California United States Willing to relocate |
I live with 2 dogs, for whom I try to provide as happy and healthy environment as is possible in this human-centered society.
I have been a long-time student of relationships, which baffle and fill my mind with wonder, all at the same time. I know that aspects, that we are fully conscious of, AND less conscious of are important when creating a relationship: the obvious wants, AND the ones that aren't so obvious, but feel very good when they're there, such as acceptance, positive regard, and passion.
I like to be active, and I am both "a few extra pounds" and "athletic." I've been doing an increasing amount of yoga; so far, my favorite is hot Vinyasa Yoga.
I have been blown away (in a really great way) listening to Eckhart Tolle.
I think I have a great sense of humor, but that's hard to express in words, and humor seems pretty subjective. I simply find a lot of things very funny.
During my life I've nurtured both human and non-human children; I've been a nanny to many children, and a friend/guardian to many non-humans. I love being around both.
I work as a home hospice nurse, which is an excellent outlet for providing compassion; I enjoy that home hospice includes physiology/microbiology/anatomy, psychology, spirituality, creativity, sociology, education, and yes, love. I'm also interested in actual health (vs. Western medicine as it stands).
I feel that I thoroughly explored career opportunities before becoming a nurse: a nanny, pre-school teacher's aid, tofu-maker, undercover agent, waitress, dance and aerobic instructor (as well as full-time dance student), secretary, hospital/ED unit assistant, receptionist, and salesperson. I like being a nurse because I continually LEARN, and there are many opportunities to assist others to learn (when they want to, that is!).
I've been relatively adventurous in my life, starting with childhood, growing up with an adventurous parent! Then, in teenage-hood, I took some solo bicycle adventures. It's continued into "adult-hood" with a nice swim adventure, and attempting motorcycling as transportation(ended abruptly with a fractured leg).
garymc
Semi-Vegetarian Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 69 |
| Height: | 5'8" (173 cm) |
| Build: | Average |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Semi-Vegetarian |
| Occupation: | Executive / Management |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Nashville-Davidson, Tennessee United States |
Warm. Kind. Friendly. Thoughtful of others needs. Helps others. Mindful. Good, slightly dry, sense of humor. Exercises regularly. Enjoys swimming, golf, skiing, bike riding and most sports. Plays card games and board games. Sings a little. Strums guitar. Likes to listen to a variety of music. Occasionally goes to movies, theater, and museums. Cooks. Handyman. Has tendency to work long hours.
TallGlassofSunshine
Vegan Female
seeking
Male
| Physical | |
| Age: | 54 |
| Height: | 6'0" (183 cm) |
| Build: | Slim/Slender |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Self Employed |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Los Angeles, California United States |
6ft tall, fit, healthy-living beach girl here, genuinely happy in my skin. Swedish-American, divorced, no kiddos, no meds lol... lifelong passion for health, fitness and nutrition. Always looking to evolve, learn, and make a positive impact.
VeganVan
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 53 |
| Height: | 6'1" (185 cm) |
| Build: | Athletic/Muscular |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Executive / Management |
| Relationship: | Single (Never Married) |
| Location |
| Huntington Station, New York United States Willing to relocate |
I've learned from my mistakes with past relationships. I am grateful to have dated some nice, sexy and well rounded Women, but we all come with different opinions, values or different set of priorities at times. I'd truly love to find happiness again some day with a vegan partner.
I spent the better part of my 20's polishing my craft, getting an education and starting a great business in the creative visual artistic field. Becoming a world renowned empowerment leader, motivational speaker is my passion. There is more to accomplish career wise certainly, but I feel that I've hit a ceiling in my romantic life and am looking for a serious relationship that would translate into a life partner.
I am open to all positive suggestions.
vegiman8
Vegan Male
seeking
Female
| Physical | |
| Age: | 67 |
| Height: | 5'10" (178 cm) |
| Build: | Average |
| Personal | |
| Diet: | Vegan |
| Occupation: | Other |
| Relationship: | Single (Divorced) |
| Location |
| Wayland, New York United States |
I'm a single Dad with three daughters and three son-in-laws, and four grandchildren. I have a good job and I try to work out as much as possible. I would love to play more basketball too.
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